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		<title>Jaredite update</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before I post more on the Jaredites, I want to finish my review of LDS scholarship on them. This largely means Nibley and Sorenson, since few other scholars have tackled them at length. Re-reading The World of the Jaredites and There Were Jaredites, both of which were published over 50 years ago, I&#8217;m struck as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I post more on the Jaredites, I want to finish my review of LDS scholarship on them. This largely means Nibley and Sorenson, since few other scholars have tackled them at length.</p>
<p>Re-reading <strong>The World of the Jaredites</strong> and <strong>There Were Jaredites</strong>, both of which were published over 50 years ago, I&#8217;m struck as usual about how far ahead of the curve Nibley was, particulalry in emphasizing how complex the Book of Mormon narrative is, how the Book of Mormon does <em>not</em> describe the ancestors of all native Americans, how different the culture and history in Ether is from the Lehite narrative, and how Ether contains element after element found in the ancient world. And Nibley even then is clearly trying to pry us away from classic, conservative Christian interpretation of such things as the great tower, warning us not to confuse cause and effect (e.g., languages may have diverged due to forced migrations, not the other way around) or over-interpret phrases such as &#8220;the whole earth&#8221; (kol ha-aretz, which can also mean &#8220;the whole land&#8221;).</p>
<p>Likewise, anyone inclined to mock the Jaredite ships needs to spend some time with the chapter &#8220;The Babylonian Background&#8221; in <strong>There Were Jaredites</strong> and explain just why there are so many correlations between the description of the Jaredite ships in Ether and the description of boats from various Babylonian flood stories (including, yes, shining stones and crescent-shaped, tightly-sealed boats that have waves covering them).</p>
<p>And, of course, by emphasizing the Asiatic origins and likely route (across Asia to the Pacific and thence to the Americas), Nibley preempted arguments citing Asiatic blood types (and later Asiatic DNA haplogroups) among native Americans.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hope to have a few more posts on the Jaredites later this week. Back to my reading.  ..bruce..</p>
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		<title>The REPO Atlas: the Jaredites (part 1)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Here is an introduction to the REPO postings. Also I've made a few updates below.] It&#8217;s hard to mine any detailed information about the Jaredites out of the book of Ether itself. What we have is Joseph Smith&#8217;s translation of Moroni&#8217;s highly selective and condensed abridgment of his (or Mosiah[2]&#8216;s) translation of Ether&#8217;s very condensed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Here is <a href="http://adventures-in-mormonism.com/2008/10/19/the-book-of-mormon-repo-postings-an-introduction/">an introduction to the REPO postings</a>. Also I've made a few updates below.]</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to mine any detailed information about the Jaredites out of the book of Ether itself. What we have is Joseph Smith&#8217;s translation of Moroni&#8217;s highly selective and condensed abridgment of his (or Mosiah[2]&#8216;s) translation of Ether&#8217;s very condensed (&#8220;<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/8/9#9">twenty-four gold plates</a>&#8220;) and late summary of somewhere from 2000 to over 3000 years of Jaredite history. Outside of the brother of Jared&#8217;s theophany of the premortal Messiah, and the occasional speculation on just how those barges were built, most of our quotes from the book of Ether tend to come from Moroni&#8217;s commentary rather than anything the Jaredites did or said.</p>
<p>Ether becomes a bit more interesting, however, when we ask ourselves just how the Jaredite civilization(s) splintered, interacted (usually by fighting), and re-merged, and what kind of religious behavior and institutions existed. It&#8217;s particularly interesting to note how different the Jaredite narrative reads from the Lehite narrative in both political and religious aspects.</p>
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<p>We start out with a modest group &#8212; Jared, his brother, their families, and some friends and their families &#8212; starting out from some unidentified (but likely Central Asia) location. They travel cross country (including &#8220;cross[ing] many waters&#8221;) and come to the &#8220;sea in the wilderness&#8221;. They build the barges; their numbers are sufficiently great to require eight barges (vs. the one ship for the Lehi/Ishmael group), but that may indicate in part a need to carry more supplies with them due to less opportunity to put to shore for food and water (cf. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/6/5-11#5">Ether 6:5-11</a>).</p>
<p>It is only after they arrive at their destination that we get any sort of census: Jared has four sons, the brother of Jared has &#8220;sons and daughters&#8221;, and their friends &#8220;were in number about twenty and two souls&#8221;, with their own sons and daughters, which implies that the &#8220;twenty and two&#8221; refers either just to adult men (since there is no mention of the spouses of Jared and his brother) or possibly to adult men and women combined. In any case, it is a much larger landing party than Lehi&#8217;s.</p>
<h3>Possible polygamy among the Jaredites</h3>
<p>When Jared and his brother reach old age, the record shows how their posterity has grown: Jared has twelve children (including four sons), while his brother has 22 sons and daughters (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/6/19-21#19">Ether 6:19-21</a>). The text indicates that this a census of living individuals in their group. Since Jared and his brother in their old age have between them 34 surviving (and, most likely, largely adult) children, this strongly suggests polygamy as an active practice, at least among the ruling class, particularly given both the typically high (&gt;50%) infant/child mortality rate and, for that matter, adult mortality rate in pre-modern societies. These numbers show up again in at least one subsequent ruler (cf. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/7/2#2">Ether 7:2</a>); for many later rulers the phrase is simply &#8220;many sons and daughters&#8221;.</p>
<p>Another possible indication of polygamy are the accounts of rulers siring sons and daughters &#8220;in their old age&#8221; (cf. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/7/26#26">Ether 7:26</a>; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/9/14#14">Ether 9:14</a>; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/10/4#4">Ether 10:4</a>; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/10/14#14">Ether 10:14</a>), though that could also simply indicate the death of one wife and the marriage to a new, younger wife (cf. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/9/24#24">Ether 9:24</a>). Note that many of these examples involve leaders and rulers who are clearly indicated as being righteous and God-fearing.</p>
<h3>Religion among the Jaredites</h3>
<p>As I noted in my REPO introduction, the truly unique aspect of Ether is that it gives us our only glimpse into the religious behavior of a post-Noachian, pre-Abrahamic people (Genesis 10 and 11 gives us only genealogy and a brief story of the great tower).</p>
<p>Upon the arrival in the New World, we have the brief and somewhat intriguing passage: &#8220;And they were taught to walk humbly before the Lord; and they were also taught from on high.&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/6/17#17">Ether 6:17</a>). The brother of Jared was still alive at that point and was likely continuing to act as a prophet; that may be what was meant by &#8220;taught from on high&#8221;, or that may have reference to something else.</p>
<p>However, after that point there is no indication of any form of organized or institutionalized religion or worship among the Jaredites, nor of any form of priesthood authority or ordinances (save one, mentioned below). You do have three Christ-related theophanies &#8212; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/3">the brother of Jared</a>, <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/9/21-22#21">Emer</a>, and <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/13/4#4">Ether </a>(sort of) &#8212; stretched out over two or three millennia. You have occasional incursions of prophets &#8212; always plural and always unnamed (until <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/12/1-5#1">Ether</a> himself) &#8212; crying repentance unto the Jaredites, on fear of destruction. No specific commandments or standards &#8212; other than &#8220;walking humbly before the Lord&#8221;, &#8220;preparing the way of the Lord&#8221; and &#8220;repenting of iniquities&#8221;&#8211; are ever cited by these prophets in the record, again until Ether.</p>
<p>The only exception to the above is the mention of Gilead being murdered by &#8220;his high priest&#8230;as he sat upon the throne&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/9#9">Ether 14:9</a>). Gilead is mentioned in the previous verse as having &#8220;received great strength to his army, because of secret combinations&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/8#8">Ether 14:8</a>); if I read <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/10#10">Ether 14:10</a> correctly, the high priest himself is murdered by Lib, who is &#8220;one of the secret combinations.&#8221;  It is impossible to tell from these few verses what the high priest&#8217;s motivation was or if he was part of the intermittant orthodoxy.</p>
<p>As for Ether, it is hard to tell from the record what he actually wrote and how much Moroni is summarizing  and interpreting, particularly with his own post-Abrahamic, post-Israel, post-Mosiac, post-Christ perspective. The closing of the book of Ether (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/15/33-34#33">Ether 15:33-34</a>) &#8212; when Moroni says he only related &#8220;a hundredth part&#8221; of Ether&#8217;s record and then quotes Ether verbatim, speaking in first person terms &#8212; suggests that Moroni reduced most of what Ether actually wrote into a brief, third-person account.</p>
<p>Ether knows of Christ and of Jerusalem by vision, and prophesizes of a New Jerusalem to be built in the Americas; he also knows of others whom God has led to the Americas, either by revelation or by direct or indirect contact; after all the people of Zarahemla (&#8220;Mulekites&#8221;), the Nephites, and the Lamanite had been living &#8216;south&#8217; of the Jaredites for over 300 years at this point.</p>
<p>Indeed, Ether may well have first learned of Jerusalem and the house of Israel from contact with these other groups. This seems especially likely, since Ether ends up prophesying specifically regarding the seed of Joseph (cf. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/13/6-8#6">Ether 13:6-8</a>); of course, Lehi and Ishmael were both of the tribe of Joseph.</p>
<h3>Possible indigenous people in the Jaredite regions</h3>
<p>As with the Lehite party, there are subtle indications that the Jaredites may have encountered an existing indigenous population when they settled in the Americas. Here are some of those indications:</p>
<ul>
<li>In the Americas, the people are &#8220;taught to walk humbly before the Lord&#8221;; if this refers only to the transplanted Jaredites, it raises the question of just what they were being taught in all those years migrating across Asia, plus the full year on the ocean when they &#8220;did not cease to praise the Lord&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/6/7-9#7">Ether 6:7-9</a>).</li>
<li>As noted above, it appears likely that Jared and his brother, as well as their immediate descendants, practiced polygamy; the explosion of the number of children appears to occur mostly after the arrival in the Americas.</li>
<li>At the same time, the overall Jaredite population grows sufficiently between the arrival of the Jaredites and the approaching deaths of Jared and his brother to require a census (cf. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/6/19-20#19">Ether 6:19-20</a>).</li>
</ul>
<p>None of these individually is terribly compelling, and even combined they only hint at the existence of native populations. The case is certainly not as strong as it is for the Lehites, but there&#8217;s nothing to preclude a native population either.</p>
<h3>Geographic dispersement among the Jaredites</h3>
<p>We have very little in the way of geographical details about the Jaredites, other than the names of various cities and a few geographical landmarks. And the transmission process of the book of Ether (Jaredite records -&gt; Ether -&gt; Moroni) makes it difficult to unravel the basis for some of the statements made.</p>
<p>For example, in Ether 7:6 we read:&#8221;Now the land of Moron, where the king [Kib, grandson of Jared] dwelt, was near the land which is called Desolation by the Nephites.&#8221; This event is within 2 generations of the Jaredites arriving in the New World, so it predates the prophet Ether by roughly 2000 years. So we face a few related questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>How did Ether know just where the land of Moron was located 2000 years earlier?</li>
<li>How did he convey this in his record?</li>
<li>How did Moroni determine from Ether&#8217;s abridgement/writing just where Moron was located and thus identify it as being &#8220;near the land which is called Desolation by the Nephites&#8221;?</li>
<li>Is it possible that Ether and/or Moroni confused the land of Moron cited in Ether 7:6 with the land ruled 2000+ years later by the Jaredite king Moron (Ether&#8217;s grandfather; cf. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/11/14-23#14">Ether 11:14-23</a>) and possibly named after him (cf. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/6,11#6">Ether 14:6, 11</a>)? Or were both lands of Moron really the same?</li>
</ul>
<p>Similar problems occur with most Jaredite geography. We don&#8217;t know if the name of a given city, land, or landmark is its original name, its name at the time of Ether, or the name that Moroni knows it by.</p>
<p>What we can tell is that even after the Jaredites arrive in the New World, there are a lot of migrations, a lot of unnamed cities founded, and a lot of population groups that splinter off (and occasionally recombine). Here&#8217;s a list of the significant geographical entities we have from the book of Ether:</p>
<ul>
<li>the land of Nehor (where Corhior, Kib&#8217;s son, goes off to) (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/7/4#4">Ether 7:4</a>)</li>
<li>the land of Moron (where Kib, Jared&#8217;s grandson, rules) (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/7/5-6#5">Ether 7:5-6</a>)</li>
<li>the &#8220;land of their first inheritance&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/7/16#16">Ether 7:16</a>)</li>
<li>the hill Ephraim (source of metal; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/7/9#9">Ether 7:9</a>)</li>
<li>the city Nehor (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/7/9#9">Ether 7:9</a>)</li>
<li>the &#8220;kingdom of Shule&#8221; and the &#8220;kingdom of Cohor&#8221; (unclear if these are lands or just political divisions; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/7/20#20">Ether 7:20</a>)</li>
<li>the land of Heth (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/8/2#2">Ether 8:2</a>)</li>
<li>the &#8220;kingdom of Omer&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/9/1#1">Ether 9:1</a>; this does appear to be a political reference, rather than a geographical one)</li>
<li>the hill of Shim (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/9/3#3">Ether 9:3</a>)</li>
<li>&#8220;a place which was called Ablom, by <span class="searchword">the</span> seashore&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/9/3#3">Ether 9:3</a>)</li>
<li>&#8220;out of the land&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/9/3,9#3">Ether 9:3, 9</a>; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/10/8#8">Ether 10:8</a>)</li>
<li>&#8220;many mighty cities&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/9/23#23">Ether 9:23</a>) and &#8220;many cities&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/10/4,12#4">Ether 10:4, 10:12</a>)</li>
<li>an unnamed &#8220;great city by the narrow neck of land&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/10/20#20">Ether 10:20</a>)</li>
<li>the wilderness of Akish (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/3-4,14#3">Ether 14:3-4, 14</a>)</li>
<li>the land of Nehor (late; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/6#6">Ether 14:6</a>)</li>
<li>the &#8220;borders by the seashore&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/12,26#12">Ether 14:12, 26</a>)</li>
<li>the plains of Agosh (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/15-16#15">Ether 14:15-16</a>)</li>
<li>&#8220;many cities&#8221; overthrown and burned by Shiz (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/17#17">Ether 14:17</a>)</li>
<li>the land of Corihor (late; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/27#27">Ether 14:27</a>)</li>
<li>the valley of Shurr (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/28#28">Ether 14:28</a>)</li>
<li>the hill Comnor (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/14/28#28">Ether 14:28</a>)</li>
<li>the waters of Ripliancum (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/15/8#8">Ether 15:8</a>)</li>
<li>&#8220;a place called Ogath&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/15/10#10">Ether 15:10</a>)</li>
<li>the hill Ramah (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/15/11#11">Ether 15:11</a>), which Moroni identifies (indirectly) as the hill Cumorah (cf. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/morm/6/6#6">Mormon 6:6</a>)</li>
</ul>
<p>Again, it is unclear whether the lands of Nehor and Corihor at the end of the Jaredite civilization map exactly (or at all) to the lands of Nehor and Corihor in the early days of the Jaredite civilization. Likewise, it is unclear on what basis Moroni maps specific Jaredite locations to locations known to the Nephites (such as the hill Ramah being the same spot as the hill Cumorah). All we do know is that one expedition found Coriantumr and a large engraved stone &#8220;with a few words&#8221; in the midst of the remains of the Jaredites somewhere to the &#8220;north&#8221; of Zarahemla (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/omni/1/21#21">Omni 1:21</a>), while another found the twenty-four gold plates (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/8/7-11#7">Mosiah 8:7-11</a>) likewise among abandoned and decaying armor.</p>
<p>This post is getting long, so I&#8217;ll save the discussion on Jaredite politics for part 2.  ..bruce..</p>
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		<title>The Book of Mormon REPO postings: an introduction</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“The first rule of historical criticism in dealing with the Book of Mormon or any other ancient text is, never oversimplify. For all its simple and straightforward narrative style, this history is packed as few others are with a staggering wealth of detail that completely escapes the casual reader. The whole Book of Mormon is a condensation, and a masterly one; it will take years simply to unravel the thousands of cunning inferences and implications that are wound around its most matter-of-fact statements. Only laziness and vanity lead the student to the early conviction that he has the final answers on what the Book of Mormon contains.”</p>
<p>– Hugh Nibley, 1952 (<strong>The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley, Vol. 5: Lehi in the Desert / The World of the Jaredites / There Were Jaredites</strong> [Deseret Book/FARMS, 1988] p. 237.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Some months back, I had a lengthy back-and-forth discussion in the comments to <a href="http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/06/27/zeniff-noble-idealist-or-useful-idiot.htm">a posting I made over at Mormon Mentality</a>. The starting point was Dan (of <a href="http://thegooddemocrat.wordpress.com/">The Good Democra</a>t) taking issue with a comment I made about the Book of Mormon&#8217;s applicability to current world situations. Dan&#8217;s contention (see <a href="http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/06/27/zeniff-noble-idealist-or-useful-idiot.htm#comment-87645">comment #8</a>) was that the Book of Mormon dealt strictly with a bipolar situation (Nephites v. Lamanite), which had little bearing on today&#8217;s multi-polar world. <a href="http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/06/27/zeniff-noble-idealist-or-useful-idiot.htm#comment-87647">I strongly disagreed</a> with Dan&#8217;s bipolar characterization of the religious-political situation described in the Book of Mormon and expressed my opinion that a careful reading showed a very complex, multipolar situation instead.  The argument went back and forth for several postings, with neither of us convincing the other.</p>
<p>However, it did trigger my desire to do a series of postings discussing the religious-political (REPO) &#8220;atlas&#8221; (if you will) of the Book of Mormon. I&#8217;m not breaking any new ground with this; real Book of Mormon scholars (starting, as always, with Nibley) have been doing this for years.</p>
<p>But I think it&#8217;s worth taking the time to see what the Book of Mormon has to say about the very complex religious and political elements of the peoples it discusses. As Nibley and others have noted, the Book of Mormon record is far from simple or simplistic. We tend to read it that way because Nephi and Mormon &#8212; who account for the vast majority of the Book of Mormon text &#8212; both followed the theme of the ultimately doomed Nephites vs. the ultimately redeemed Lamanites.  (See this article by Steven L. Olsen for an interesting discussion on <a href="http://farms.byu.edu/publications/jbms/?vol=15&amp;num=1&amp;id=400">whether Mormon consciously patterned his abridgment of Nephite records after Nephi&#8217;s small-plates writing</a>.) But in spite of that, the Book of Mormon text itself reveals and suggests a far more complex religious, political, and social milieu. The goal of these postings will be to point out some of that.</p>
<p>Some of my observations may be original, but I tend to doubt it. <img src='http://adventures-in-mormonism.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I own and have read over three dozen volumes dealing with the Book of Mormon; I also have read just about every issue of the <a href="http://farms.byu.edu/publications/jbms/"><em>Journal of Book of Mormon Studies</em></a>. Most of my insights are likely ones that I have gained elsewhere. Where I can and am willing to dig back in, I will offer specific cites (such as the Olsen article above), but my intent at this point is not a scholarly work; it is merely to suggest complexities that may be easily overlooked in a normal reading of the Book of Mormon.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to start with the Jaredites for three reasons. First, they predate the Lehite arrival and set up a context for it. It&#8217;s pretty clear that there were Jaredite/Lehite interactions well before Coriantumr staggered into Zarahemla, given some 400 years of geographical coexistence and the occasional Jaradite name showing up in Lehite circumstances. Second, the Jaredites represent something unique in the scriptural canon: God&#8217;s dealings over a few thousand years with a <a href="http://adventures-in-mormonism.com/2007/09/11/rethinking-the-flood-from-an-lds-perspective/">post-deluvian</a>, pre-Abrahamic (and pre-Melchizedek) people.  Third, we (as members and even as LDS scholars) really tend to ignore the Jaredites, so it&#8217;s good for them to get a little more attention.</p>
<p>Now to go write that Jaredite posting.  ..bruce..</p>
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