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	<title>Comments on: LDS disciplinary councils (PBS show &#8220;The Mormons&#8221;)</title>
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		<title>By: Adventures in Mormonism &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some observations on polygamy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adventures in Mormonism &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some observations on polygamy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 03:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] really have been only a few dozen such excommunications over the past 20 years), there have been scores of excommunications for extreme right-wing behavior and hundreds, if not thousands, of excommunications for involvement and participation in polygamous [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] really have been only a few dozen such excommunications over the past 20 years), there have been scores of excommunications for extreme right-wing behavior and hundreds, if not thousands, of excommunications for involvement and participation in polygamous [...]</p>
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		<title>By: blain</title>
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		<dc:creator>blain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 03:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure Bishops have that discretion either, but that doesn&#039;t mean they might not take it.  My last trip through the handbook didn&#039;t include any alternative to an additional DC.  I&#039;m not sure how a counselor could provide any useful counsel without a DC being convened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure Bishops have that discretion either, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they might not take it.  My last trip through the handbook didn&#8217;t include any alternative to an additional DC.  I&#8217;m not sure how a counselor could provide any useful counsel without a DC being convened.</p>
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		<title>By: bfwebster</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 13:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re misreading my post a bit -- my point is that lifting disfellowshipment doesn&#039;t requirement rebaptism but comes as a result of a decision at the bishopric level (presuming that the disfellowshipment occurred at the ward level) or at the stake president level (if it occurred at the stake level). Note that for some causes of excommunication (such as sexual abuse of children), rebaptism can only occur after the case has been reviewed and approved by the First Presidency of the Church.

Second, the bishop does not need to necessarily reconvene a disciplinary council to revoke the disfellowshipment -- merely inform his counselors of his intent to do so and see if they have objections. I speak as someone who has been a counselor in a bishopric twice  and have had that occur. Having not served in a stake presidency, I can&#039;t comment on whether stake presidents exercise that same discretion.

Thanks for the comment.  ..bruce..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re misreading my post a bit &#8212; my point is that lifting disfellowshipment doesn&#8217;t requirement rebaptism but comes as a result of a decision at the bishopric level (presuming that the disfellowshipment occurred at the ward level) or at the stake president level (if it occurred at the stake level). Note that for some causes of excommunication (such as sexual abuse of children), rebaptism can only occur after the case has been reviewed and approved by the First Presidency of the Church.</p>
<p>Second, the bishop does not need to necessarily reconvene a disciplinary council to revoke the disfellowshipment &#8212; merely inform his counselors of his intent to do so and see if they have objections. I speak as someone who has been a counselor in a bishopric twice  and have had that occur. Having not served in a stake presidency, I can&#8217;t comment on whether stake presidents exercise that same discretion.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  ..bruce..</p>
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		<title>By: blain</title>
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		<dc:creator>blain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 07:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point 4 is incorrect, in that ending a disfellowshipment requires convening another DC, and the submission of paperwork to SLC afterwards to clear the disfellowshipment from the membership record of the member.

Haven&#039;t seen the show yet, so I can&#039;t comment on the presentation yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point 4 is incorrect, in that ending a disfellowshipment requires convening another DC, and the submission of paperwork to SLC afterwards to clear the disfellowshipment from the membership record of the member.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t seen the show yet, so I can&#8217;t comment on the presentation yet.</p>
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